Post by Porsche Briggs on Nov 8, 2013 14:06:48 GMT -6
James I would love to say I'm THAT good to get you nominated if my little heart desires but sadly I'm not. My views of you in this game are my own and Rachel had her own personal interactions with you that led to your nomination. One example being she caught you lying to her when Dom was honest about the f4 with Jessie and Elissa.
Yes you messaged me in the morning but you were then not around all day so how was I to campaign and why would I? There wasn't a thing I could have said because you guys wanted me evicted.
I went to reply many times and what I said sounded so super bitchy I kept deleting and allowed myself time to cool off. What I said to you yesterday was true I'm not mad about your vote I do understand it. I also understand that everything you have said to me about your loyalty was a lie because the second you could do so you went against me.
You going on and on yesterday about being all about the new f4 you offered was fake. It was all so you and Dom wouldn't go up together. How could you offer a legit f4 when you already had one? That would mean you would have to betray one of those deals and I think taking that chance was just too risky when your actions leading up to that offer just did not match up to your words.
Post by Jessie Kowalski on Nov 8, 2013 14:16:25 GMT -6
I'D LIKE TO STRAIGHTEN SOMETHING OUT [I'M FORCED TO USE CAPS SO I'M NOT ACTUALLY YELLING BTW] THIS F4 THAT YOU GUYS KEEP TALKING ABOUT...? NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED SO IT'S ACTUALLY ANNOYING TO KEEP HAVING TO READ IT WHEN THERE WAS NEVER AN ACTUAL ALLIANCE THAT FORMED. THE IDEA OF IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ONE TIME. THAT'S IT. NEVER DID I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ANYONE ABOUT IT BEING A FINAL 4 ALLIANCE. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT WAS SAID TO YOU GUYS SINCE I HAVEN'T READ ANY OF IT, BUT BESIDES FOR HAVING GAME TALKS WITH EACH OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY, I NEVER MADE ANY DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT AN "ALLIANCE" WANTED. JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
Did everyone have a chance to simmer? Good, because I have some stuff to say.
I try to wait before reacting for people I value, to assess whether I should listen to the devil or angel on my shoulder.
A quick observation. I went against Porsche twice in this game. The first was creating that 6-man alliance early on, and the second was voting her out last round. And both times, in the round immediately after, I find myself nominated with some completely extra nomination ceremony. I personally feel like I have done nothing to Ian nor Rachel to warrant such hostility lol.
I honestly don't know what to do. Because what Rachel basically proved is that, "If the opportunity presents itself, James will try to stay in the game." Kk...
I never asked to be in the HoH room. Before responding to Rachel and Porsche in the HoH thread, I asked Rachel on aim if she wanted me to frame my responses around the idea of a final four. She of course said yes. It's so crazy how fake Porsche and Rachel were to me on aim. When I voted Porsche last round, I sent her a pm in the morning which gave her all day to campaign. Yet I'm fake? I can't be trusted?
And Porsche doesn't respond to my pm, very sassy mind you, until she stayed and Rachel won HoH. If THAT's not opportunistic, then idk what is.
All I have to say Rachel, is enjoy your ally in Porsche. May history repeat itself and you find yourself evicted right before the finish line. Again.
Lol you don't understand where I'm coming from at all. The reason I have been so upset and the point I was trying to make is how you are playing everyone. I have bended over backwards for you in this game James. My ACTIONS have shown that. I had more loyalty to you than probably anyone else in the house. I don't know who the other two votes were to keep you, but I was more than willing to roll over and try to make something happen to save you the week you got evicted and you know that.
When you come back into the house I continually try to work with you, and everytime I'm not in power I get repaid with being targeted. Naturally after the way you acted last week I was going to invite you and Dominic to the HoH room to bait the two of you. I had been upfront and honest with you up until this week, once I was positive you had ill intentions with me. That was the plan all along. I wanted everyone to see where your loyalty lies when it comes to them and how quick you were to throw anyone and everyone under the bus just to save your own hide. It's an individual game but you can't get anywhere in it without allies, and when your willing to sell your allies down the river in the blink of an eye it speaks volumes to how much you actually value those people in the game.
As far as history repeating itself goes. I quite Jamiely don't care if it does. Had I been foolish and fallen for your F4 deal this week it would have repeated itself anyways and probably a lot earlier. The only way to make sure that wasn't going to happen was if I did something about the two of you this week. If history repeats itself so be it. At least if it repeats itself I'm not going out looking like a fool for trusting the two of you.
Did everyone have a chance to simmer? Good, because I have some stuff to say.
I try to wait before reacting for people I value, to assess whether I should listen to the devil or angel on my shoulder.
A quick observation. I went against Porsche twice in this game. The first was creating that 6-man alliance early on, and the second was voting her out last round. And both times, in the round immediately after, I find myself nominated with some completely extra nomination ceremony. I personally feel like I have done nothing to Ian nor Rachel to warrant such hostility lol.
I honestly don't know what to do. Because what Rachel basically proved is that, "If the opportunity presents itself, James will try to stay in the game." Kk...
I never asked to be in the HoH room. Before responding to Rachel and Porsche in the HoH thread, I asked Rachel on aim if she wanted me to frame my responses around the idea of a final four. She of course said yes. It's so crazy how fake Porsche and Rachel were to me on aim. When I voted Porsche last round, I sent her a pm in the morning which gave her all day to campaign. Yet I'm fake? I can't be trusted?
And Porsche doesn't respond to my pm, very sassy mind you, until she stayed and Rachel won HoH. If THAT's not opportunistic, then idk what is.
All I have to say Rachel, is enjoy your ally in Porsche. May history repeat itself and you find yourself evicted right before the finish line. Again.
Lol you don't understand where I'm coming from at all. The reason I have been so upset and the point I was trying to make is how you are playing everyone. I have bended over backwards for you in this game James. My ACTIONS have shown that. I had more loyalty to you than probably anyone else in the house. I don't know who the other two votes were to keep you, but I was more than willing to roll over and try to make something happen to save you the week you got evicted and you know that.
When you come back into the house I continually try to work with you, and everytime I'm not in power I get repaid with being targeted. Naturally after the way you acted last week I was going to invite you and Dominic to the HoH room to bait the two of you. I had been upfront and honest with you up until this week, once I was positive you had ill intentions with me. That was the plan all along. I wanted everyone to see where your loyalty lies when it comes to them and how quick you were to throw anyone and everyone under the bus just to save your own hide. It's an individual game but you can't get anywhere in it without allies, and when your willing to sell your allies down the river in the blink of an eye it speaks volumes to how much you actually value those people in the game.
As far as history repeating itself goes. I quite Jamiely don't care if it does. Had I been foolish and fallen for your F4 deal this week it would have repeated itself anyways and probably a lot earlier. The only way to make sure that wasn't going to happen was if I did something about the two of you this week. If history repeats itself so be it. At least if it repeats itself I'm not going out looking like a fool for trusting the two of you.
I'm targeting you because I voted Porsche? Lolk. When you had Dom as a target, and evicted my ally Shane. But you were looking after me and bending over backwards to help me out.
The only thing I can respect about you Rachel is that you win competitions. Yet even then, you pursue to fabricate lies and create an elaborate plan to get me out of this game. Because I'm sooo threatening in failing to vote out Porsche and winning luck-based veto comps.
Whatever. I'm just annoyed on a personal level that you would steep pretty low to evict me, when all the signs were already in place for you to do it in the first place. But if you think the way you handled it is justified, it's your call. I must be pretty damn threatening for you to come at me like that. Thanks for the compliment?
And like Dom, I have nothing to hide in the HoH room. And if Jack/Jessie/Elissa make f2, I'll have the exact same thing to say in jury questioning. It's pretty difficult not to be a floater since Rachel and Porsche specialize in social, recycled notes, and who said what competitions, which seem to be all the HoH comps this season. But I don't know if supporting Rachel and Porsche is better or worse than being Rachel and Porsche. And I don't feel like handing Rachel and Porsche the game because they know how to manipulate their friends into voting for them to stay for pregame bull crap.
How could you offer a legit f4 when you already had one?
This is how Porsche and Rachel group people together, to isolate them from the "in-crowd". And if you interact with people outside the in-crowd, you'll be next.
Or you can just wait until the in-crowd's left, and Porsche will out you herself lolz.
Lol you don't understand where I'm coming from at all. The reason I have been so upset and the point I was trying to make is how you are playing everyone. I have bended over backwards for you in this game James. My ACTIONS have shown that. I had more loyalty to you than probably anyone else in the house. I don't know who the other two votes were to keep you, but I was more than willing to roll over and try to make something happen to save you the week you got evicted and you know that.
When you come back into the house I continually try to work with you, and everytime I'm not in power I get repaid with being targeted. Naturally after the way you acted last week I was going to invite you and Dominic to the HoH room to bait the two of you. I had been upfront and honest with you up until this week, once I was positive you had ill intentions with me. That was the plan all along. I wanted everyone to see where your loyalty lies when it comes to them and how quick you were to throw anyone and everyone under the bus just to save your own hide. It's an individual game but you can't get anywhere in it without allies, and when your willing to sell your allies down the river in the blink of an eye it speaks volumes to how much you actually value those people in the game.
As far as history repeating itself goes. I quite Jamiely don't care if it does. Had I been foolish and fallen for your F4 deal this week it would have repeated itself anyways and probably a lot earlier. The only way to make sure that wasn't going to happen was if I did something about the two of you this week. If history repeats itself so be it. At least if it repeats itself I'm not going out looking like a fool for trusting the two of you.
I'm targeting you because I voted Porsche? Lolk. When you had Dom as a target, and evicted my ally Shane. But you were looking after me and bending over backwards to help me out.
The only thing I can respect about you Rachel is that you win competitions. Yet even then, you pursue to fabricate lies and create an elaborate plan to get me out of this game. Because I'm sooo threatening in failing to vote out Porsche and winning luck-based veto comps.
Whatever. I'm just annoyed on a personal level that you would steep pretty low to evict me, when all the signs were already in place for you to do it in the first place. But if you think the way you handled it is justified, it's your call. I must be pretty damn threatening for you to come at me like that. Thanks for the compliment?
And like Dom, I have nothing to hide in the HoH room. And if Jack/Jessie/Elissa make f2, I'll have the exact same thing to say in jury questioning. It's pretty difficult not to be a floater since Rachel and Porsche specialize in social, recycled notes, and who said what competitions, which seem to be all the HoH comps this season. But I don't know if supporting Rachel and Porsche is better or worse than being Rachel and Porsche. And I don't feel like handing Rachel and Porsche the game because they know how to manipulate their friends into voting for them to stay for pregame bull crap.
Oh please. Had I been nominated last week you would have voted me out. The reason Porsche was even brought into the discussion was because you had been preaching this F4 long before this week to the both of us and then the minute one of us is on the block you vote against the one nominated. To make it comparable, what deals did I have with Dominic/Shane that ever indicated that I would need to pledge loyalty to them? That Starz thing in week 1? Lol because that lasted all of two seconds anyways. And yea, I'd say I did have your back James. For starters one time Dominic volunteered to be a pawn, and then the second time you TOLD ME that is was optimistic thinking to trust him in the first place, and then proceed to show me a PM as to why. I looked out for you up until now. I wasn't going to look out for Shane or Dominic because there were signs that pointed to both of them coming after me. You can't say I didn't keep you safe or try to protect you, so if that isn't looking out for you I have no idea what is.
I'm not sure how I'm stooping so low this week with this plan to get you out. It's no different than what you have been doing to me which is playing me the whole damn time. As I said in my nomination speech, I just gave you a taste of your own medicine. How did the signs point to me coming after you in the first place? I have literally made no moves against you in this game up until this week. I kept you in the house and didn't nominate you. What signs were there that I was coming after you? If anything the reason I've come at you so hard is because I'm hurt. You hurt me James. (And no that's not the reason I stated you were the target) I tried to work with you and felt like I got shit on. The reason being because from my understanding of the situation, you wanted me to get evicted last week. If your justification for that is because of what happened with Shane/Dominic, or just because you find me threatening so be it, but I wanted to work with you, and tried to make it work until you proved that you had ulterior motives at play.