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[Jessie Kowalski]

That would have been good, but how was I to know she would do this truthfully, I was aligned with a lot of people and I thought I was in a good spot regardless. When rachel won hoh, I was initially upset because I really wanted to nominate her and Porsche, but at the same time, I felt okay because even if I was gonna go to f2 with rachel, I felt I'd have deserved to win over her and could have made a good case for myself. My biggest threat for f2 was Porsche because she played an amazing social game. She was impossible to evict and won competitions when she needed to. Very well-rounded and I respect that. I feel like I'd have had a hard time selling my game against her so thinking that rachel and I were still good, I figured it wouldn't be so bad going to the end with her.
Rachel took a gamble by nominating me because if she doesn't win pov, there's a great chance she'll be evicted... Whereas Porsche probably would have evicted me over her at f4.

[Dominic Briones]

Do you think Porsche will evict Rachel? Let's face it, Jack isn't likely to win PoV. And I really don't think James will evict Rachel. I think he'd evict Jack or Porsche over her. I think either James or Jack leave this week, unless James wins HoH and Rachel wins PoV. I could see Rachel taking out Porsche. That is, unless Porsche evicts Rachel if given the chance. But I think Porsche's biggest "threat" to win is James. I think Porsche can beat Rachel easier than James in a f2.

[Jun Song]

I don't think Porsche would evict Rachel. Lesbihonest, Jack won't win LOL. Love him to bits and pieces, but no. I think James would be leaving this week over Jack IF Porsche becomes HoH. But it all comes down to the last Veto.

[Jessie Kowalski]

I don't REALLY know these people outside of this game so obviously I don't know how close they are outside of it. But from a logical standpoint where pregames aren't an issue, it would make sense for Porsche and rachel to try and take each other out.
And I agree Dom. I believe both James and Porsche would have an easier win against rachel.

[Elissa Slater]

I don't think Porsche would evict Rachel either. We'll see what happens, but it's becoming hard to deny Porsche the win here.

[Andrew Gordon]

Aww Jessie....... Im hoping for Jack here next just because he is least deserving of those left. Even with all the Rachel hate she is deserving to at least be in the conversation for the end. Dont have to like the way she has played but she still has put herself in a good position to win. Competitions are a part of the game and she has excelled at that portion though she may be lacking elsewhere. That being said Im pulling for Porsche or James at this point. They both could make a compelling case to win and I think it would be interesting to see them go at it in the finals.

[Dominic Briones]

Dec 10, 2013 5:15:21 GMT -6 Andrew Gordon said:

Aww Jessie....... Im hoping for Jack here next just because he is least deserving of those left. Even with all the Rachel hate she is deserving to at least be in the conversation for the end. Dont have to like the way she has played but she still has put herself in a good position to win. Competitions are a part of the game and she has excelled at that portion though she may be lacking elsewhere. That being said Im pulling for Porsche or James at this point. They both could make a compelling case to win and I think it would be interesting to see them go at it in the finals.

Don't get me wrong, I think Rachel played a superb physical game, and even a decent social/strategy game. But when compared against the others (excluding Jack), her jury management was atrocious. With all the wins she had, she didn't need to be so fake/heartless/cold (not sure what the best word to describe her gameplay is in that sense) with each round. So I guess where she excelled from an active social standpoint, she failed from a "making and keeping the right connections" social standpoint, which is a huge part of the social game. And even, strategically, you sometimes have to work it so that you don't technically betray your allies when you still want them gone. You have to try to get other players to share the blood, which is part of the strategic game. Porsche beat Rachel in that sense 100%. 

[Jessie Kowalski]

Rachel tried to with me, but it was the most ridiculous attempt ever. So fake!!! I saw right through it. She acted like James is evicting jack when she knew full well that he was evicting me and acted like she'd keep me in a tie. Lies. And the thing is, I don't even care that I'm evicted at this point. It's just the way rachel played that bothers me lol. It's been bothering me for a few rounds now and way before I was nominated.

Andrew, she played a great physical game, but it's not the type of game that I personally care for. I know someone who is a competition beast and rarely can someone beat them at a competition, but he also plays an amazing strategic and social game. Rachel was social, no denying that... But it felt fake and it annoyed me A LOT throughout the course of the game. Her strategic game was sort of there, but she kept acting like it was "out of the blue." Ugh! It frustrated me so much in this game! Can't handle it lol.
But I think what bothers me most is that she had to rely way too much on winning. I definitely missed an opportunity during my hoh. Don't know what place I'd have gotten by nominating her, but the opportunity was there to take and I missed it. Other than that week, had she not been hoh or won veto, I highly doubt she'd still be here.



And btw... Who the hell told Ian and company about that damn alliance week 2?

[Andrew Gordon]

I agree completely with what you guys are saying and I cant see myself voting for her to win unless she's against Jack. I was just playing devil's advocate in the sense that she did at least excel at one portion of the game.

[Dominic Briones]

I like playing the what if game, because I already ran the scenarios through my head..

If you'd have nominated Rachel, Jessie, then let's assume she went home that week. I'd have won HoH (barring andrew winning over me, which im not sure if he would have or not, but let's pretend i win since he'd have basically had to have had a perfect score like Rachel to beat me). I would have nominated Andrew and Porsche. James wins PoV and doesn't use it. Had Jessie and James voted for Porsche to leave, I could break the tie and send her home, putting Rachel and Porsche in the jury over me and Andrew at that point. James wins next HoH, nominates Andrew/Jack, and Andrew leaves as the bigger threat. That leaves Me, Jessie, James, Elissa, Jack in the game at final 5. Jessie, you win HoH because you were 2nd place in final 5 HoH behind Rachel. You nom up James/Jack. We send Jack out the door and our f4 alliance makes the final 4. Yay!

And I wouldn't win this final 4 HoH. So probably James or Elissa win. If only. Haha

[Jessie Kowalski]

Haha! Elissa would have won it probably.
Good answer though. Man... I totally wish I had done that!
I would have prob evicted jack over Andrew, but I wouldn't have had the final say in the end, so you're right about how it would have all happened.

[Andrew Gordon]

Its funny how one little change could affect so much.

[Jessie Kowalski]

I kind of want James to get 4th or 3rd and have Porsche and Rachel in f2.
I don't want jack in f2 because the other person will have an easy win and it's annoying.

[Jessie Kowalski]

Porsche won HOH!
I hope jack goes this week!!!

[Andrew Gordon]

Jack didnt even take the time to do it?! Exams or not it took a whole 2 minutes to just guess. I wouldnt be surprised if James goes this week if he doesnt win veto.